# Euler-Bernoulli's beam ODE or PDE

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Piotr Haciuk on 18 Mar 2019
Edited: Lubos Smolik on 3 Apr 2020
Hi guys,
I'm trying to develop a script of Euler-bernoulli's beam equation for the purpose of my project.
I've been researching the internet with no success.
I'm fimiliar with the theory but don't know how to translate it into matlab.
I've done multi degree of freedom system using ODE45 and it works,
but I can't find a way to use EB eqn.
I've came across a statement: Usually a PDE will have boundary conditions, while an ODE has an initial condition.
In E-B eqn we have both, so is it PDE or ODE?
and then will I be able to do it using ODE45?
If not, where to go? what to use instead?
Here's the link to my MDOF problem I solved with some help here.
I'm not expecting the code written for me, i just need some suggestions and guidance
Many thanks
Piotr
P.S.
the eqn has a form of:
E*I*d4w/dx4(x,t)+rho*A*d2w/dt2(x,t)=f(x,t)

Amin Mohammed on 5 Mar 2020
Very interesting question, I just came accross situation and would love to see the documentation suggested by @Bill Greene, the link provided is proken now, could you kindly help me please to access there?
Lubos Smolik on 3 Apr 2020
Amin, you can try to explore Bill's repository (link).

Bill Greene on 19 Mar 2019
Take a look at this example: beam dynamics with pdepe

Bill Greene on 20 Mar 2019
I selected my initial condition to excite only a single mode. For a general initial condition or load, an infinite number of modes are excited.
Piotr Haciuk on 21 Mar 2019
Dear Bill
I was wondering if the case was moving load along the beam,
will I still be able to use pdepe?
also if the case would be at least two moving loads along the beam in opposite direction,
will it work?
Kindest
Piotr
Amin Mohammed on 5 Mar 2020
I just came accross situation and would love to see the documentation suggested by @Bill Greene, the link provided is proken now, could you kindly help me please to access there?

John D'Errico on 19 Mar 2019
Euler-Bernoulli
might appear in several aspects. It kind of depends on what you are doing with it.
For example, in a purely static form, thus with no time dependence, this is a 4th order ODE. However much of the time, a beam will have boundary conditions applied at each end of the beam. That makes it a boundary value problem. ODE45 and tools like that are designed to solve initial value problems. You can use IVP solvers to solve boundary value problems, using perhaps a shooting method. But it is easier to use tools like BVP4C to solve a boundary value problem.
Once you add in a time dependency however, this becomes a problem with two variables, so it is a PDE. The time dependency enters in differently however, than as just a spatial variable. For example, a classical PDE might be to predict the steady state temperature of a body using Fourier's law of heat conduction. So just a Laplacian in perhaps 2 or 3 dimensions. This becomes a simple elliptic PDE, subject to boundary constraints.
Your beam is not really any different.
What happens however, when you add in that time dependency? Typically, this looks like an initial value problem in time. That is, you know the state of the beam at time = 0. Then based on a variety of forces on the beam, on the constraints at the boundaries, you wish to see how this system will evolve over time.
A standard way to solve such a problem is the method of lines.

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Piotr Haciuk on 19 Mar 2019
Thank you John, I'll have a look later and see if my brain can make a use of it.